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but go ahead, sir. >> romney: you bet. mr. president you are absolutely right with regards to 97% of the businesses are not taxed at the 35% tax rate. they are taxed at a lower rate. but those businesses happen to employee half -- half of all of the people who work in small business. those are the businesses that employ one quarter of all of the businesses in america. i talked to a guy who has a very small business. he is in the electronics business in st. louis. he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes. federal tax, state tax, state income tax, gasoline tax, it added up to well over 50% of what they earned. and your plan is to take the tax rate successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. that will cost jobs. my priority is jobs so what i do is bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions. create more jobs because there's nothing better for getting us to an balanced budget than having more people working, earning more money paying more taxes, that's by far the more efficient way to get this ba
but go ahead, sir. >> romney: you bet. mr. president you are absolutely right with regards to 97% of the businesses are not taxed at the 35% tax rate. they are taxed at a lower rate. but those businesses happen to employee half -- half of all of the people who work in small business. those are the businesses that employ one quarter of all of the businesses in america. i talked to a guy who has a very small business. he is in the electronics business in st. louis. he said he and his son...
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mr. romney finish your point. >> cenk: on the other hand, i understand michael's point too. it's not that president obama never debated before. >> yes, he is a known quantity. >> cenk: and how many times have we covered president obama reacting to fox news. oh, my god, glenn beck is going to talk about shirley sherod i got to do something. in this case fox news does the direct attack immediately before the debate. could he have reacted to fox news. >> i think it is a direct possibility that he has had past experience of fox news criticizing him and then he acts on it. there could be a number of different factors at play. what michael said was also correct. he was not on his a-game. he may have been been overconfident going into the debate. he's not working that hard. romney is shooting himself in the foot. >> cenk: i think you all made great points and president obama may not be doing it on purpose but because of what he has had to do his whole life as professor rose is pointing out to some degree. eliot spitzer has got "viewpoint" next. eliot, what do you have. >> eliot: i
mr. romney finish your point. >> cenk: on the other hand, i understand michael's point too. it's not that president obama never debated before. >> yes, he is a known quantity. >> cenk: and how many times have we covered president obama reacting to fox news. oh, my god, glenn beck is going to talk about shirley sherod i got to do something. in this case fox news does the direct attack immediately before the debate. could he have reacted to fox news. >> i think it is a...
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mr. romney was no doubt pleased with the reviews of last night's debate, most of which said the former massachusetts governor got the better of president obama. matt jablow spoke tonight with the man who knows a thing or two about presidential debates and said he was just stunned by president obama's poor performance. >> i love these debate. >> reporter: as long-time political correspondent for cnn, frank cesno covered more than his share of debates. >> '84, '88, '94, 2000. >> reporter: but none more interesting than last night's duel in denver. >> because of the expectations that went in were so completely divergent from the results that came out. >> reporter: currently the director of the school of media and public affairs at george washington university, he said mitt romney's poised performance -- >> i will not reduce the taxes paid by high-income americans. >> reporter: romney looked like he wanted to be there. he was engaged. >> coupled with president obama's lackluster performance s
mr. romney was no doubt pleased with the reviews of last night's debate, most of which said the former massachusetts governor got the better of president obama. matt jablow spoke tonight with the man who knows a thing or two about presidential debates and said he was just stunned by president obama's poor performance. >> i love these debate. >> reporter: as long-time political correspondent for cnn, frank cesno covered more than his share of debates. >> '84, '88, '94, 2000....
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on doubling the deficit, "new york times" reports mr. romney said mr. obama had doubled the deficit. that is not true. on green energy, mr. romney said half the companies backed by the president's green energy stimulus program have gone out of business. that is a gross overstatement. on the $716 billion that romney claimed that president obama cut from medicare, "the new york times" reports while fact checkers have repeatedly debunked this claim it remains a standard attack line for mr. romney. on every single issue. "the new york times" reports mitt romney lied. he did not tell the truth. why didn't president obama call him on those lies and go after him? and why didn't president obama expose those lies last night? he just didn't do so. i don't understand it. maybe john kerry told him not to. jenny is calling from worton, new jersey. hi jenny. >> caller: hi, bill. how are you? >> bill: i'm good. thank you. >> caller: long time listener, first time caller. >> bill: all right. >> caller: i had to call about that moderator last night. he was just awful. >
on doubling the deficit, "new york times" reports mr. romney said mr. obama had doubled the deficit. that is not true. on green energy, mr. romney said half the companies backed by the president's green energy stimulus program have gone out of business. that is a gross overstatement. on the $716 billion that romney claimed that president obama cut from medicare, "the new york times" reports while fact checkers have repeatedly debunked this claim it remains a standard attack...
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and then there was mr. romney's claim that the president's health care plan creates an unelected board to tell people what kind of treatments they can have. the truth? the board looks at overall medical costs and by law does not have the power to tell doctors what treatments they can prescribe. >>> starting tomorrow, president obama and mitt romney weigh in on the issues in an exclusive presidential forum on the web. >>> it took the full 162 games, but tonight the oakland a's sit atop the american league west. that's what it looked like in the locker room. in front of a sell-out crowd, the a's completed a late-season surge. there was more talk of the team leaving town than actually winning their division. now they have clinched home field advantage in the first round of the play-offs. >> we're not finished yet! i realize that. we're gonna enjoy it right now. it's an unbelievable feeling. >> it was great. we haven't had this kind of turnout all year. they're going to come out and support us in such a close r
and then there was mr. romney's claim that the president's health care plan creates an unelected board to tell people what kind of treatments they can have. the truth? the board looks at overall medical costs and by law does not have the power to tell doctors what treatments they can prescribe. >>> starting tomorrow, president obama and mitt romney weigh in on the issues in an exclusive presidential forum on the web. >>> it took the full 162 games, but tonight the oakland a's...
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he told the debate medicare is -- mr. etch-a-sketch said that was wrong. the romney camp had to send someone in the spin room right after the debate to say, well he can't really do that. as for taxed obama appeared to be caught off guard by the statement that his plan wouldn't increase taxes. much of romney's performance was rooted in deception from his very first answer when he tried to disown his tax program, and then finally he is unable to deem regulation he would keep -- he has been saying for how long he would repeal dodd-frank. and suddenly just because he said it, oh no you have to have regulation -- [ cuckoo clock chimes ] >> stephanie: unbelievable. paul tonko, good morning, congressman. >> good morning, stephanie. how are you. it's great to join you and your listeners. >> stephanie: you too. it was great to see you at the dnc. it really is stunning to try to fact check romney, right? >> the one that got me was the revenue reducing tax cut, and talk about this resulting growing of the base and, you know, it's -- it's so interesting that -- that t
he told the debate medicare is -- mr. etch-a-sketch said that was wrong. the romney camp had to send someone in the spin room right after the debate to say, well he can't really do that. as for taxed obama appeared to be caught off guard by the statement that his plan wouldn't increase taxes. much of romney's performance was rooted in deception from his very first answer when he tried to disown his tax program, and then finally he is unable to deem regulation he would keep -- he has been saying...
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then on to virginia and ohio for mr. romney. mitt romney's campaigns in virginia and then florida. monday he's expected, as he said, to start filling in the policy details with the first of several speeches starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. vest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. >>> welcome back to "hardball." last night was a tough night for the president, of course, but there's another story to be told about mitt romney's performance, which relied on fuzzy math. vague policy prescriptions and statements that strained the truth. i'm being nice here. he denied his tax plan would cost $5 trillion. denied it. independent economists say it's the case. "the new york times" editorial today, they got out overnight, says the following, virtually every time mr. romney spoke, he misrepresented the platform on which he and p
then on to virginia and ohio for mr. romney. mitt romney's campaigns in virginia and then florida. monday he's expected, as he said, to start filling in the policy details with the first of several speeches starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. vest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers...
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then on to virginia and ohio for mr. romney. mitt romney's campaigns in virginia and then florida. monday he's expected, as he said, to start filling in the policy details with the first of several speeches starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar for every dollar car insurance companies say they'll save you by switching, you'd have like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companies might answer "um" or, "no comment." then there's esurance. born online, raised by technology, and majors in efficiency. so whatever they save, you save. hassle, time, paperwork, hair-tearing-out, and yes, especially dollars. esurance. insurance for the modern world. click or call. >>> welcome back to "hardball." last night was a tough night for the president, of course, but there's another story to be told about mitt romney's performance, which relied on fuzzy math. vague policy prescriptions and statements that strained the truth. i'm being nice here. he denied his tax plan would cost $5 trillion. denied it. independent
then on to virginia and ohio for mr. romney. mitt romney's campaigns in virginia and then florida. monday he's expected, as he said, to start filling in the policy details with the first of several speeches starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar for every dollar car insurance companies say they'll save you by switching, you'd have like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companies might answer "um"...
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case in point, mr. romney's tax plan. for months he's been telling us that he'll cut everyone's taxes by 20%. so some of the country's brightest economists did the math and found that romney's tax plan promises to cut taxes by $5 trillion without adding to the deficit. but when mitt romney took to the stage last night, he delivered a line that beggared belief. >> no economist can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> so black is white, up is down, and everything is the way he says it is in the world of mitt romney. like yago, mitt romney delivered those lines in the presence of a black man, but on this occasion the president would not be deceived. he allowed mr. romney to rehearse the full extent of his lie and then just a few hours ago drew our attention to what really happened last night. >> the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts in favor of the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night s
case in point, mr. romney's tax plan. for months he's been telling us that he'll cut everyone's taxes by 20%. so some of the country's brightest economists did the math and found that romney's tax plan promises to cut taxes by $5 trillion without adding to the deficit. but when mitt romney took to the stage last night, he delivered a line that beggared belief. >> no economist can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >>...
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. >> jim: governor romney. >> thank you, jim. mr. president. thank you for tuning in this evening. thanksgiving an important election. i am concerned about america. i am concerned about the direction america has been taking over the last four years. i -- i know this is bigger than election about the two of us, as individuals. it's bigger than our respective parties. this lrkz is about the course of america. what kind of america dowrpt to have for yourself and for your children? there are two very different paths that we began speakerring about. we will have two more presidential debates and a vice-presidential debate. and we will talk about the two paths. and they lead in very different directions. it is not just the words. you can look at the record. there is no question in my mind, if the president were to be re-elected, you will continue to see a middle-class squeeze with incomes going down and prices going up. you will see chronic unemployment. we have 43 straight months of unemployment above 8%. if i am president, i will help create 12 million new jobs in this country, with ri
. >> jim: governor romney. >> thank you, jim. mr. president. thank you for tuning in this evening. thanksgiving an important election. i am concerned about america. i am concerned about the direction america has been taking over the last four years. i -- i know this is bigger than election about the two of us, as individuals. it's bigger than our respective parties. this lrkz is about the course of america. what kind of america dowrpt to have for yourself and for your children?...
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then on to virginia and ohio for mr. romney. mitt romney's campaigns in virginia and then florida. monday he's expected, as he said, to start filling in the policy details with the first of several speeches starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. sleep train's inventory clearance sale ends columbus day. get 3 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. save 10%, 20%, even 35% on a huge selection of simmons and sealy clearance mattresses. even get free delivery! don't miss 3 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. the inventory clearance sale ends monday. superior service, best selection, lowest price, guaranteed. ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ >>> welcome back to "hardball." last night was a tough night for the president, of course, but there's another story to be told about mitt romney's performance, which relied on fuzzy math. vague policy prescriptions and statements that strained the truth. i'm being nice here. he denied his tax plan would cost $5 trillion. denied it. independent economists say it's the case. "the new york tim
then on to virginia and ohio for mr. romney. mitt romney's campaigns in virginia and then florida. monday he's expected, as he said, to start filling in the policy details with the first of several speeches starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. sleep train's inventory clearance sale ends columbus day. get 3 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. save 10%, 20%, even 35% on a huge selection of simmons and sealy clearance mattresses. even get free delivery! don't miss 3 years...
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romney, congratulations mr. president on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most place you could imagine here with me. it was a great line from romney, not known to be funny. >> from the start, i think he picked up. he was able to work than extraordinarily confident fashion. he came in against tight, as mr. lipton indicated he owned that moment, owned that stage. he wanted to own obama with all of those troubling consequences, and he did so, i think, because he presumed that he would tell his facts, he would tell his truth, he would do it with vigor, and you can study every master, you connect emotionally, articulate your viewpoint and people believe in perception of your command. last night he was unquestioned in terms of his supremacy. >> that was significant. while romney was freely contradicting all of the previous romneys, he was unchallenged. unchallenged by the moderator. and unchallenged by the president. that, i thought, was extraordinary. i couldn't believe it. i kept waiting for the president to give answers that anyoneny one
romney, congratulations mr. president on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most place you could imagine here with me. it was a great line from romney, not known to be funny. >> from the start, i think he picked up. he was able to work than extraordinarily confident fashion. he came in against tight, as mr. lipton indicated he owned that moment, owned that stage. he wanted to own obama with all of those troubling consequences, and he did so, i think, because he presumed that he would...
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romney leads by three. on the deficit, mr. romney leads by nine. on all of these issues, that's the one on which he has the strongest trust from voters as compared with president obama. and that confidence in mr. romney on the deficit turns up not just in the nbc/"wall street journal" poll, but in a lot of national polls. even though he hasn't given a lot of details as to how he would handle the deficit as an issue. the bottom line, there's no question as to who you would rather be here, right? you would rather be president obama than mitt romney looking at these numbers. that plus 19 advantage that the president has on looking out for the middle class, that is a death nail for mr. romney's campaign if he cannot turn that around. but i think looking ahead to tonight's debate, there is a real opportunity in the huge disconnect in the electorate, in a way that reflects a real risk for president obama. there's this huge disconnect between mr. obama's best number with voters and one of his worst numbers. which is that president obama has so far not bee
romney leads by three. on the deficit, mr. romney leads by nine. on all of these issues, that's the one on which he has the strongest trust from voters as compared with president obama. and that confidence in mr. romney on the deficit turns up not just in the nbc/"wall street journal" poll, but in a lot of national polls. even though he hasn't given a lot of details as to how he would handle the deficit as an issue. the bottom line, there's no question as to who you would rather be...
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given that mr. romney and mr. ryan have given no details but have given a promise that they're going to reduce taxes by 20%, how does mitt romney deal with that tomorrow? what does he actually say that he has previously refused to say on explaining that? >> well, i think it's fascinating that they're treating mitt romney like he's the president and a lot in the media treat president obama like he's the challenger. what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i want to reduce taxes across the board and i want to make sure we have a balanced budget. he wasn't very specific during the campaign, and when he became president, he released a series of principles that went to capitol hill that said these are the measures that meet my -- >> here is the problem with that though, ron. people who have assessed his mathematics have deemed them to be completely impossible. michael, this is just in from mitt romney on how he'll pay for his massive 20% across the board tax cut. take a listen. >> everybo
given that mr. romney and mr. ryan have given no details but have given a promise that they're going to reduce taxes by 20%, how does mitt romney deal with that tomorrow? what does he actually say that he has previously refused to say on explaining that? >> well, i think it's fascinating that they're treating mitt romney like he's the president and a lot in the media treat president obama like he's the challenger. what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i...
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i will do it again. >> mr. president? >> i think governor romney will have a busy first day. he will also repeal obamacare. that will not be popular withh democrats as you are sitting down with them. but my philosophy has been i will take ideas from anybody, democrat or republican, as long as they are advancing the cause of making middle-class families stronger and giving ladders of opportunity to the middle class. that is how we cut taxes for middleeclass and small businesses. that is why weecut what was in advancing that cost. that is how we signed free-trade deals that are helping us double our exports and sell more american products of from the world. that is how we repealed don't ask don't tell. that is how we ended the ar in iraq as a promise and that is how we will end the war in afghanistan. that is how we went after al qaeda ann bin laden. we have seen progress even under current -- even under republicanontrol of the house of representatives. part of being principled and being a leader is being able to describe exactly what it is you intend to do, not just saying, i
i will do it again. >> mr. president? >> i think governor romney will have a busy first day. he will also repeal obamacare. that will not be popular withh democrats as you are sitting down with them. but my philosophy has been i will take ideas from anybody, democrat or republican, as long as they are advancing the cause of making middle-class families stronger and giving ladders of opportunity to the middle class. that is how we cut taxes for middleeclass and small businesses. that...
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mitt romney just -- didn't attack, but he was firm with him. no, mr. president, you're wrong. i didn't say that. those aren't the numbers. i don't think president obama has been spoken to like that in four years. >> no, he hasn't. >> flunkies say yes, sir, mr. president, you're right, mr. president. >> let me ask you a question, he says, romney says last night, this is why i think how can you give it a win to romney? he says, oh, my gosh, how can you say that i've been running on a plan to cut $5 trillion and give these tax cuts to the rich? wait a minute. that's exactly what you've been doing. how can you say that? he says, oh, i'm going to repeal dodd frank. oh, yeah, medicare will be a voucher. these are not good things for mitt romney. >> yeah. juan, you want to throw to your favorite piece for the night? >> sure. here is president obama responding to one of these -- i don't know what you call it, distortion, dreamland that romney presented and i think as time goes on, people will say, these policies are not good policies. not the guy i want to vote for. >> well, for 18 mo
mitt romney just -- didn't attack, but he was firm with him. no, mr. president, you're wrong. i didn't say that. those aren't the numbers. i don't think president obama has been spoken to like that in four years. >> no, he hasn't. >> flunkies say yes, sir, mr. president, you're right, mr. president. >> let me ask you a question, he says, romney says last night, this is why i think how can you give it a win to romney? he says, oh, my gosh, how can you say that i've been running...
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a coin toss determined, mr. president, you go first. >> thank you very much, jim, for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of denver for your hospitality, a lot of points i want to make tonight, but the most important one is that 20 years ago, became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me. i want to wish you happy anniversary, and a year from now, we won't celebrate it in front of 40 million people. four years ago, we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost, the auto industry was on the brink of collapse the financial system had frozen up, and because of theo resilience and determinatin of the american people, we've begun to fight our way back. over the last 30 months, we've seen 5 million jobs in the private sector created. the auto industry has come roaring back and housing has begun to rise. but we all know that we still have a lot of work to do. and so the question here tonight is not where we'
a coin toss determined, mr. president, you go first. >> thank you very much, jim, for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of denver for your hospitality, a lot of points i want to make tonight, but the most important one is that 20 years ago, became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me. i want to wish you happy anniversary, and a year from now, we won't celebrate it in front of 40 million people. four years ago, we went...
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romney, mr. romney, totally amoral, apolitical sense i thought his performance last night was masterful if not brilliant. >> rose: masterful and brilliant. >> yes. >> where do we go from here? what should we watch for? >> last time around john kerry we talked about, as a coach and sparring partner he did good against scroo w in 2004 election and the second debate of that kerry was vice president's debate in which after the president losing the debate if you will, then dick cheney who is very, blue edwards out of the room like well until this time i don't think we have met before, very established way to put that, you know people like this. you know how you do it, you just say i don't think we met before, like you are a nobody. and he was very good at that, very good and putting them away and i think that turned it back so the debates wouldn't be lethal to the incumbent president, this time, i think joe biden, he has flaws, his establish isn't precise some time but up against a guy child kind of a
romney, mr. romney, totally amoral, apolitical sense i thought his performance last night was masterful if not brilliant. >> rose: masterful and brilliant. >> yes. >> where do we go from here? what should we watch for? >> last time around john kerry we talked about, as a coach and sparring partner he did good against scroo w in 2004 election and the second debate of that kerry was vice president's debate in which after the president losing the debate if you will, then...
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mr. romney saying that the president was like one of his sons. joining us there the university of denver, the site of tonight's debate, former new york mayor, rudy giuliani. thank you very much for your time. nice to have you here. >> thank you, rachel. >> what was your overall response to the debate? we know you support mitt romney but what do you think he did well? >> i really am very excited about it. i thought he did exactly what he had to do to turn this campaign around. i thought it was as devastating a convict a and defeat i've seen in a presidential campaign and debate. i thought the main thing he did and a real consistency throughout what he was saying and this is the contrast for the american people. he's talking about private-sector problems and solutions to our problems, to our economy, education, health care. and president obama is talking about government solutions. it's a very different vision that the two men have. i think president obama, also, seemed a little beif yofuddled. i'm not sure he's used to be challenged and he seemed
mr. romney saying that the president was like one of his sons. joining us there the university of denver, the site of tonight's debate, former new york mayor, rudy giuliani. thank you very much for your time. nice to have you here. >> thank you, rachel. >> what was your overall response to the debate? we know you support mitt romney but what do you think he did well? >> i really am very excited about it. i thought he did exactly what he had to do to turn this campaign around....
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jim lehrer asked mr. romney whether he supported the the vouchers that mr. ryan would be introducing to senior citizens. he dodged that question like a football player going through a pittsburgh steelers last night. i am a little cleared out. i would appreciate a lot more honesty on mr. romney's part. i probably will be leading toward the president. i am still winning. host: do you have two minutes? stay on the line. we will get a romney supporter on the line. i want to hear a little back and forth that we will moderate here. caller: sure. thank you. host: what did you think of the debate? caller: i enjoyed it and i thought to mitt romney 1. i was a 23-year coal miner for many years. barack obama is wanting to do away with coal. i want to see mitt romney come back to my area and talk about call. we have a lot of people down here suffering because barack obama has shut down the coal business. i am a christian voters. i like to take the bible and lay it down and look at it and see which president i would like to vote for. i cannot find anything in the bible th
jim lehrer asked mr. romney whether he supported the the vouchers that mr. ryan would be introducing to senior citizens. he dodged that question like a football player going through a pittsburgh steelers last night. i am a little cleared out. i would appreciate a lot more honesty on mr. romney's part. i probably will be leading toward the president. i am still winning. host: do you have two minutes? stay on the line. we will get a romney supporter on the line. i want to hear a little back and...
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>> we saw mr. romney as an etch-a-sketch. when he was running in the republican primary he moved to the right. yesterday he pretended to be somewhat of a centerist. but here's the point, let's be clear. romney won the performance debate last night, no question about it. but in terms of policy, let me ask senator hutchinson, romney will cut social security. and i believe senator hutchinson agrees with him. romney will convert medicare into a voucher program, which will be a disaster for senior citizens who are ill. romney -- let me finish please, he will make devastating cuts in medicare slowing millions and millions of children off of health insurance. romney at a time when we have the most unequal distribution of wealth and income since the 1920s will give huge, huge tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires while devastating programs that working families need. that is the policy position of romney. yes, he did very well in his performance, the president did not do so well. but in terms of the essence of what he stands fo
>> we saw mr. romney as an etch-a-sketch. when he was running in the republican primary he moved to the right. yesterday he pretended to be somewhat of a centerist. but here's the point, let's be clear. romney won the performance debate last night, no question about it. but in terms of policy, let me ask senator hutchinson, romney will cut social security. and i believe senator hutchinson agrees with him. romney will convert medicare into a voucher program, which will be a disaster for...